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Talk Thelema Model

The Talk Thelema Model

How does it work? The model presented here happens in six simple steps that we believe opens up the doors of discussion and exploration in an easy, effective, and efficient manner. This process encourages discussions to be fun, fascinating, and fulfilling.

1. Listen Up (10 min)
This is the step that gets things rolling. It could be a short group discussion or an anecdote or a quote to get the study moving. Listen Up is an involvement question.

2. Read It (15 min)
Here we read the text being explored. What does the Book of the Law and/or Liber Liberi and/or … say about this subject? Read It is the observation question that goes into the source of our principles: the foundational texts that make up the core of Thelema as a codified system.

3. Talk It (15 min)
Talk It is the understanding question. It is the part of the discussion where meaning is explored through individual inspiration being shared as to how it applies in the world and culture around us.

4. Hear It (30 min)
This is the polar opposite of the previous step. This is the application question. Hear It is the exploration of application on how this verse and the inquiry relates to your own personal life. One major goal of Talk Thelema is life transformation through an understanding and real world application of the Law.

5. Listen In (15 min)
This is the first of the two action steps. This first, Listen In, is about literally looking up from the text and study materials to transition into a spontaneous discussion of whatever the individual feels inspired to share with the group. There is no time limit on this step, but it should be reasonable.

6. Live It Out (5 min)
The second of the actions steps is to encourage each participant to put the principles into action in the real world, to literally Live It Out. It is a challenge to individuals to share what they have discovered about their own interpretation and realization of meaning with at least two people over the next week. It is a challenge to find a practical way in which to manifest meaning through action.

These six steps is the core of all discussions. Want to see how this works in the real world? Here is a brief breakdown from one of our own Talk Thelema breakfast discussions. Your discussion of Guilt may differ, of course, but this abbreviated version provides some insight into the model.

Example Topic


Big Idea: How do we examine and respond to coercion through guilt?

1. Listen Up

Get started with something engaging and easy.

[Our own introduction was ad lib and roundtable style as we each relayed some relevant experience using the questions below as our springboard.]

Discuss: Have you ever felt like someone was attempting to make you feel guilty about something? How about anyone that tried to make you feel guilty because they wanted you to do something that maybe you didn’t really want to do in the first place?

2. Read It

See what the Book of the Law says about the subject.

Pity not the fallen! I never knew them. I am not for them. I console not: I hate the consoled & the consoler. (AL 2.48)

Discuss: What is pity (i.e., sympathy) and how does it relate to the ‘guilt complex’ in relation to the word of sin? What is the social value of sympathy? Who are the fallen? Why are we told to ‘pity not the fallen’? Why are we told specifically about the consoled and the consoler?

3. Talk It

Connect this to our culture, both general and Thelemic.

So many times we find that Thelemites are more than willing to play the guilt card in various circumstances. The outside world uses guilt as coercion regularly through television, radio, and internet advertising.

Discuss: What makes it so easy to use guilt as a motivator? Why is this something Thelemites should avoid? Why there is such a harsh condemnation toward this issue in the Book of the Law?

4. Hear It

Dive into the heart of the subject.

Discuss: How does this apply to your own life and outlook concerning sympathy toward others? Do you find yourself using guilt or sympathy inappropriately? What do you have to do to examine this issue more closely to remove this pattern of behavior? How do you protect yourself from others who may use this toward you?

5. Listen In

Discuss together.

Spend some time in conversation, as each person feels inspired by the discussion, or any topic that naturally leads from it.

6. Live It Out

Share with others what you have learned and manifest it through your life.

  • Share that which has inspired you during the Talk Thelema group discussion with at least two other people. This could be a family member, a co-worker, or a friend.
  • This week, spend some time each day reflecting on how different your life seems without taking on the guilt and inappropriate sympathy of others. Work on insolating yourself from being coerced into behavior, events, or actions that are not in line with your own will.
  • Find out the topic for our next Talk Thelema group discussion.